tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post4036120203347843259..comments2024-03-29T09:45:58.686+00:00Comments on Rachel the Gardener: Selling plants - Working with plants - new Law - what you need to know!Rachel the Gardenerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-28005996838265500752022-02-26T08:41:13.046+00:002022-02-26T08:41:13.046+00:00You are most welcome, Roman, I hope it goes well!
...You are most welcome, Roman, I hope it goes well!<br />Rachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-64750424573182225732022-02-16T17:29:58.924+00:002022-02-16T17:29:58.924+00:00Hello Rachel,
Thank you very much for your answer....Hello Rachel,<br />Thank you very much for your answer. I'll let you know how it turned out.<br />Sincerely<br />RomanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13653008219351245284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-62092096931199979972022-02-10T10:09:14.982+00:002022-02-10T10:09:14.982+00:00Hello Roman,
You don't have to be self-employ...Hello Roman,<br /><br />You don't have to be self-employed to sell plants: as you don't have a "business name" just leave that box blank.<br /><br />The point of this badly-written legislation is to give an element of traceability for plants which are sold by post, ie to stop the spread of diseases. <br /><br />If you are only selling a few plants, face-to-face, then I would suggest you contact your local APHA rep - there should be contact details for APHA on the form - and ask their advice, as they might say that you don't need to register. Honestly, every APHA rep seems to interpret the details slightly differently, so it's worth making contact with whoever is your local rep, and asking them.<br /><br />And good luck with the plant sales!Rachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-90262912126213486102022-02-08T20:46:50.117+00:002022-02-08T20:46:50.117+00:00Hello Rachel
My hobby is growing ornamental plants...Hello Rachel<br />My hobby is growing ornamental plants. I grow some of them from seeds bought in the store and some of them of the cuttings from the mother plants. I have a small garden and sometimes there are more plants than I would like. Therefore I would like to sell them face to face but I'm not a self-employed person and don't want to break the law.<br /><br />My question is: <br />1 - Do I have to register at APHA even if I am not a self-employed person and it is only my hobby?<br />2 - If so, how do I fill in the registration form? because there is a box in their registration form to fill in your business name, but I do not have a company and I am not a self-employed person.<br />Regards<br />RomanAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13653008219351245284noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-14033008276442525162021-05-13T06:44:52.963+01:002021-05-13T06:44:52.963+01:00Hi Suzanne,
No: this law is all about keeping tab...Hi Suzanne,<br /><br />No: this law is all about keeping tabs on plants being moved around the country which, in real terms, means them being sold. It's not the money aspect they are trying to control, it's the movement of the plants.<br /><br />So giving them away for free is allowed, because it's (nearly always) local.<br /><br />You are ok to give plants to fellow allotmenteers! Rachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-60725801873120328902021-05-12T21:07:56.890+01:002021-05-12T21:07:56.890+01:00Hi Rachel,
So does this mean I have to register t...Hi Rachel,<br /><br />So does this mean I have to register to be able to legally give my excess plants away to my fellow allotmenteers?<br /><br />Kind regards, SuzanneAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04635079241930562210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-84372702919655825472021-04-02T18:43:22.752+01:002021-04-02T18:43:22.752+01:00Hi Terra, thank you for taking the trouble to comm...Hi Terra, thank you for taking the trouble to comment: APHA were perfectly happy with my lat/long reference, and they do actually ask for a ten-figure grid reference, not an OS grid reference. <br /><br />My understanding is that without the two letter code, the ten digit number is meaningless, as every square can have the same ten digit number within it. So it's a good thing you put it in!<br /><br />But I could be wrong! It has been known! (Due note has been made of both occasions.... *laughs*)Rachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-50551607744559204232021-04-02T09:13:32.975+01:002021-04-02T09:13:32.975+01:00Hi,
Thanks so much for this information. One very...Hi,<br /><br />Thanks so much for this information. One very minor correction, though, about the 10 figure grid reference - it's the OS grid reference, not WGS lat/long (which is what is in the Google Maps URL). You can get the grid reference at this website, by typing in your postcode and then clicking on the marker that comes up: https://gridreferencefinder.com<br /><br />The grid reference is a two letter code followed by two sets of five coordinates. Not sure wqhether DEFRA want the two letters but I've put them in anyway.<br /><br />Thanks, again, for all this info!Terrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00733929985367371255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-40620429880210963782021-03-27T13:13:14.356+00:002021-03-27T13:13:14.356+00:00I know! It's driving me mad, I can tell you: ...I know! It's driving me mad, I can tell you: not least because they - APHA - keep changing how they interpret the rules, and each individual APHA rep seems to make their own interpretation, as well.<br /><br />The best bet really seems to be to contact your local APHA rep, and talk to them: explain what you are doing, and be advised by them.<br /><br />And good luck with your plant selling venture!Rachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-30116312131717615002021-03-26T23:16:38.678+00:002021-03-26T23:16:38.678+00:00Thank you for this post, me and my partner love ou...Thank you for this post, me and my partner love our garden, and have hundreds of plants added in the last few years and have now loads of indoor ones to bring some of the outside in, rather than keep buying we want to now look into helping others to create similar spaces and have found your article a great insight. I'm a bit overwhelmed at how much red tape their is but do understand the issue with diseases but to charge what they do is disgusting to be honest and do not understand how they can justify that type of expense. I work in an industry saving lives and don't get anywhere near that much money! I love this country but that's our politics for you! Normal for Norfolkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18390079082613695793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-82095415832689931432020-09-25T14:32:32.272+01:002020-09-25T14:32:32.272+01:00Hi Rachel,
Thank you so much!
I've got the f...Hi Rachel, <br />Thank you so much! <br />I've got the form so will get started on that and send it off and await for someone to contact me.<br />Thank you for detailed post!<br />ZoeZoe Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09237866576218306590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-40650354620241320112020-09-12T08:16:30.104+01:002020-09-12T08:16:30.104+01:00Hi Zoe,
Firstly, I have to keep saying that the r...Hi Zoe, <br />Firstly, I have to keep saying that the rules keep changing!! <br /><br />My understanding is that if you sell by POST then you need to issue Plant Passports.<br /><br />If your customers come and collect in person, then you DO need to register but you DO NOT need to issue PPs.<br /><br />I would suggest that you register with APHA as a plant grower, then ask your local rep - who will contact you, in person, after you register - to confirm how they interpret the rules.<br /><br />Good luck with the business!<br /><br />RachelRachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-70911325307762741142020-09-09T10:47:09.978+01:002020-09-09T10:47:09.978+01:00Hi Rachel,
I've had a good read of this post a...Hi Rachel,<br />I've had a good read of this post and the updated post and think I've fully understood, but would you mind just confirming for me? <br />Alongside my part time job, I've been growing plants from seed and selling them via Facebook marketplace (people come to my house to collect) and I am (hoping!) to turn a profit next year with them. I now understand I have to register with the APHA, but do I need to issue plant passports? Or does someone official contact me after I register to see what I need to do? Thank you in advance, your post is a very informative read!<br />Zoe Zoe Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09237866576218306590noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-63375716713746420502020-08-30T08:43:46.118+01:002020-08-30T08:43:46.118+01:00It's easy to think that: but it was done for t...It's easy to think that: but it was done for the best of reasons, to prevent diseases - remember Ash Dieback? - from being spread around the country with no records, no tracking, no responsibility.<br /><br />The error seems to be in the way APHA threw together the rules without realising how many thousands of "little" plant sellers there are: and then, when it was brought to their attention, they were completely unprepared, and unable to change the rules to accommodate us. Instead, they seem to have instructed their Agents to use their own interpretation of the rules, leading to contradictory statements, conflicting interpretations, and finally creating an atmosphere where all we "little" people are inclined to just disregard the whole thing, because it is unworkable.<br /><br />So, in my opinion, yes, they've wrecked a home industry (except for all those thousands of small plant growers who still haven't heard about it and who are still blithely selling plants and seeds - just go take a look a eBay!), but that wasn't their intention, because they actually didn't know that we existed.Rachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-83092665221225386842020-08-29T23:47:07.353+01:002020-08-29T23:47:07.353+01:00Another wrecking of home industry? Another wrecking of home industry? Yelsel1003https://www.blogger.com/profile/11749725628194010308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-64269573294110476842020-06-22T17:43:50.552+01:002020-06-22T17:43:50.552+01:00Hi Aimee,
One thing I have learned about APHA/th...Hi Aimee, <br /><br />One thing I have learned about APHA/the government/DEFRA etc is that they change their minds as the wind blows.<br /><br />So the most sensible advice I can give you is to do the Registering process, the first one: get yourself Registered as a Plant Seller. <br /><br />Then wait for your local Inspector to contact you, and explain to them exactly what you are planning to do, and see what they say.<br /><br />From everything I have read so far, it sounds as though you would need to Register as a Plant Seller, but would not need to issue PPs as you are not selling them by post.<br /><br />But don't take my word for it!!!! And good luck with the business!Rachel the Gardenerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17025126472323801610noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1736928270390224037.post-64805681764846556192020-06-22T14:53:12.149+01:002020-06-22T14:53:12.149+01:00Thank you so much for taking the time to write tha...Thank you so much for taking the time to write that useful and informative post. I am in the early stages of setting up a little plant business and so have been doing my own research into plant passporting and I found the info on the new legislation very confusing and overwhelming, thanks for unpicking it!<br />I have a question that I hope you can help with - I hope to set up a local plant subscription service, order plants from suppliers and then deliver all plants in person (on my bike) to the customer. Will this count as a face to face transaction and mean I just need to register with the APHA but not sign up to the entire passporting scheme? Many thanks, AimeeACE123https://www.blogger.com/profile/13703078846191073615noreply@blogger.com